In this podcast, 2430 Group Director Glenn Chafetz argues that American companies are losing IP to China because their focus on quarterly profits prevents them from calculating the significant long-term cost of stolen technology and making needed investments in counterintelligence efforts that would protect their IP.

He closes with advice for companies: You have to become sufficiently expert in economic espionage, counter-espionage, counterintelligence, because if you don't, your competitors will.

2430 Group Co-Founder Tom Lyons talks to the The Washington Times’ Threat Status podcast about the People's Republic of China's ongoing campaign of intellectual property theft. During the episode, Lyons explained how the PRC uses a sophisticated blend of coercion, fraud, and state-sponsored economic espionage to acquire American innovation. These activities directly undermine US economic stability and national security by eroding technological competitiveness and threatening American jobs. Lyons emphasized that small businesses, the primary engines of US innovation, are frequently targeted and remain uniquely vulnerable to these predatory practices.